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Poster: Capt. Cook Date: Dec 14, 2008 8:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

What if Garcia had picked up on this song like the way he did say, Scarlet Begonias, or Crazy Fingers, and there were dozens of late 70's into the 80's versions to stir through. What if the song had surfaced with Brent, or during some first set after Cassidy with Keith on piano. I'm sure they knew it, heard about it. Could have been a great Dead song. Really, one of the great Garcia licks at the end, a timeless classic performed what 4 times with the Band. The double keys really fill this out nicely.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1991-04-07.sbd.31953.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 15, 2008 6:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

I was lucky enough to catch the first at the Cap Center and the last at Buckeye Lake. I think that Buckeye is the best of the four, although the crowd response to the breakout at the Cap Center was pretty wild.

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Poster: yesss! Date: Dec 15, 2008 12:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

hey, me too! and i agree. buckeye was my favorite. the moment they started playing it at cap center was both exhilarating and confusing because the chords were familiar and i new that it was a song that i really liked, but for a split second i couldn't identify what song it actually was. then i figured it out and started cheering and you could hear the wave of enthusiasm spread through the room as everybody realized what it was. good times.

i imagine this tune would have had many very great gd versions if they had played it from 77 on.

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Poster: edgehead 2 Date: Dec 15, 2008 9:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

The 4-7 version is my favorite because of the cadence of the end jam. To me, the other versions are more like the studio version and are kinda stilted. This version swings a lot more and builds to a great climax.

Before the show started, a photographer who jumped in our row to take some pics leaned over to us and pointed to R&C on one of those shirts that has every Dead song on it and said "they're playin that tonight." We all laughed it off not knowing they had broken it out a few days prior. We were totally stunned when R&C started, though I don’t think that the crowd new the song as well as others. I f***ing love this show. e

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Poster: sunmonster Date: Dec 15, 2008 5:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

If someone knows of a '91 version where you can't hear Vince during the jam, I'm all ears.

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: Dec 15, 2008 5:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

6-9-91...the fourth attempt...nice closing solo by the whole band..Vinny is very upfront

This post was modified by sambonk2 on 2008-12-15 13:50:26

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Poster: Darkstarz117 Date: Dec 14, 2008 9:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

The other 3 times Reuben was played by the Dead:

http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-03-17.sbd.miller.28295.sbeok.flacf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-03-27.sbd.miller.14486.sbeok.shnf

http://www.archive.org/details/gd91-06-09.sbd.unknown.12756.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: L.A. Women Date: Dec 15, 2008 12:16am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

I kinda like the fact it was only played a number of times, I cherish those moments even more. If your looking for a version were jerry really does some soloing at the end there is a great one from 77 jgb that is a little grungy but absolutely rips at the end. Can't remember what the date was but the song wasn't played that much so it wouldn't be that hard to find. Worth seeking out for sure.

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Poster: sambonk2 Date: Dec 15, 2008 5:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

also 11-23-91 with JGB at the Bradley Center...Seek it out if you have not heard it...very nice

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Poster: Arbuthnot Date: Dec 14, 2008 8:53pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

one of my all-time favourite Hunter compositions; it would have been interesting to see what the GD did with it, maybe even if they had fleshed it out into something more explorative; however, that being said, Jerry performed it a known 96 times with JGB or with just him and JK, and since i am rather partial to Jerry's stuff outside the GD ...

some songs just worked better with the GD and others with JGB and others with both outfits; personally, i would have liked Jerry to have performed 'Bird Song' with JGB and not just w/Kahn; or imagine if he had worked it into one of his bands w/Saunders!

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Poster: skuzzlebutt Date: Dec 15, 2008 12:25pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

I agree that it would have been interesting to see if the song could have been expanded into more of a jamming vehicle. As it is, though, there really isn't anything especially noteworthy about the few test drives the band gave it- they're pleasant enough, but I don't think the boys were really given enough cracks to really sinkt heir teeth into the song.

To me, the great unfufilled Jerry tune (as far as the Dead's turns on the song) remains "Mission In the Rain".

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Dec 16, 2008 9:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

Nice call. Looks like Mission was only played a handful of times in June 1976. I'd throw Gomorrah in there too. I don't think it was ever played by the Dead, but what a nice Jerry Band tune. I could see the boys throwing that one in for a first set breather.

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Poster: Old_NJ_Head_Zimmer Date: Dec 15, 2008 2:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Reuben and Cherise - What if...

Like any thing else with the band - You brought a song in but you couldn't control how everyone else was going to interpret it and play it. If they didn't like what hey heard they had a choice to keep it or stop, not to redirect the playing.

Who knows how many tunes were tried and dropped in jams and practice sessions?

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